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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, PM. The reason I visit homeschool blogs is because they give me ideas for how I can be a better mother to my children in everything from creating a domestic church to maintaining our values. 
I really appreciate homeschoolers&#039; choice and will continue to consider it for my own family. Until then, my kids will stay in public school and I will continue to attempt to shed light on how this choice, too, can work to the glory of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, PM. The reason I visit homeschool blogs is because they give me ideas for how I can be a better mother to my children in everything from creating a domestic church to maintaining our values.<br />
I really appreciate homeschoolers&#8217; choice and will continue to consider it for my own family. Until then, my kids will stay in public school and I will continue to attempt to shed light on how this choice, too, can work to the glory of God.</p>
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		<title>By: PM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice,

Thanks for sharing your experience.  I understand what you are saying.  I sometimes worry about families that have a very rigid attitude about a schooling choice and regardless of how it is working for them will not look at other options because they are convinced by the people they hang out with or a theology they have embraced that there is only one way.  That includes all of us, public, private, homeschooling, we all need to be fleixible and consider other options when we see our kids, family, marriage are not thriving. 

 We are in public school now but would consider Catholic or homeschooling if we need to.  Evaluating our choice is an ongoing process for us.  I used to be very fundamentalist and rigid in my thinking myself.  I see things differently now and I find that very helpful. I also find that I learn alot from families who homeschool/Catholic school and I enjoy that connection.

Congratulations on expecting your first.  Anticipating the arrival of a child is a very exciting time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experience.  I understand what you are saying.  I sometimes worry about families that have a very rigid attitude about a schooling choice and regardless of how it is working for them will not look at other options because they are convinced by the people they hang out with or a theology they have embraced that there is only one way.  That includes all of us, public, private, homeschooling, we all need to be fleixible and consider other options when we see our kids, family, marriage are not thriving. </p>
<p> We are in public school now but would consider Catholic or homeschooling if we need to.  Evaluating our choice is an ongoing process for us.  I used to be very fundamentalist and rigid in my thinking myself.  I see things differently now and I find that very helpful. I also find that I learn alot from families who homeschool/Catholic school and I enjoy that connection.</p>
<p>Congratulations on expecting your first.  Anticipating the arrival of a child is a very exciting time.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading this conversation for most of the week, but I&#039;m always a bit shy about commenting for the first time on a blog.  

It looks as if I grew up in a home similar to those of anon111&#039;s relatives.  At one point when I was in my teens, my mother decided we could no longer talk with our neighbor (one of the most innocent Catholic girls you&#039;d ever meet) because she went to public school.  The homeschooled teenagers at church were all boys, so I was very lonely.  I was the teen who would walk by people I knew without saying hello because it was easier to be rude than to try to talk with someone outside my family.  I kept my faith, but only through the grace of God.  

For college, I went to a very good state university.  I graduated with high honors in music with a minor in Latin.  The following year, I married another Catholic and we are expecting our first child.  For the most part, I am your &quot;poster alumna&quot; for Catholic homeschooling.  

My sister did not fare as well as I did.  She lost her faith in her early teens.  When she was 18, she had only finished 9th grade, despite the fact that she is very bright.  She is now a teen mother, working a entry level job and studying for her GED.  

My family is not the only family where both faith and education suffered because of homeschooling pride.  It breaks my heart to see parents working so hard and yet refusing to open their eyes to the fact that homeschooling is not working for their family.  Oddly enough, neither my sister nor I have ruled out homeschooling.  I pray that if one or both of us chooses that route, we keep our children&#039;s best interests in mind and don&#039;t let our pride get in the way if it is in their best interest to send them to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading this conversation for most of the week, but I&#8217;m always a bit shy about commenting for the first time on a blog.  </p>
<p>It looks as if I grew up in a home similar to those of anon111&#8242;s relatives.  At one point when I was in my teens, my mother decided we could no longer talk with our neighbor (one of the most innocent Catholic girls you&#8217;d ever meet) because she went to public school.  The homeschooled teenagers at church were all boys, so I was very lonely.  I was the teen who would walk by people I knew without saying hello because it was easier to be rude than to try to talk with someone outside my family.  I kept my faith, but only through the grace of God.  </p>
<p>For college, I went to a very good state university.  I graduated with high honors in music with a minor in Latin.  The following year, I married another Catholic and we are expecting our first child.  For the most part, I am your &#8220;poster alumna&#8221; for Catholic homeschooling.  </p>
<p>My sister did not fare as well as I did.  She lost her faith in her early teens.  When she was 18, she had only finished 9th grade, despite the fact that she is very bright.  She is now a teen mother, working a entry level job and studying for her GED.  </p>
<p>My family is not the only family where both faith and education suffered because of homeschooling pride.  It breaks my heart to see parents working so hard and yet refusing to open their eyes to the fact that homeschooling is not working for their family.  Oddly enough, neither my sister nor I have ruled out homeschooling.  I pray that if one or both of us chooses that route, we keep our children&#8217;s best interests in mind and don&#8217;t let our pride get in the way if it is in their best interest to send them to school.</p>
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		<title>By: PM</title>
		<link>http://daniellebean.com/2008/04/22/coffee-talk-tuesday-4/comment-page-4/#comment-10663</link>
		<dc:creator>PM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you J for your thoughts.  I too have seen already teachers have an amazing and wonderful influence on my children.  I have seen them flourish in every aspect of their being.  Teaching is a vocation I have high regard for.  

I also had some great teachers in high school that  influenced me.  Maybe sometimes people have a limited view of what public school is or maybe they live in an area where the schools are really rough.  I can understand that.  

However, sometimes the need to validate our own choices can be at the heart of why we choose to tear down any form of schooling that is not our own whether it is public, private, Catholic or homeschooling.
I try to keep that in mind when I hear comments from individuals with negative views of schooling choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you J for your thoughts.  I too have seen already teachers have an amazing and wonderful influence on my children.  I have seen them flourish in every aspect of their being.  Teaching is a vocation I have high regard for.  </p>
<p>I also had some great teachers in high school that  influenced me.  Maybe sometimes people have a limited view of what public school is or maybe they live in an area where the schools are really rough.  I can understand that.  </p>
<p>However, sometimes the need to validate our own choices can be at the heart of why we choose to tear down any form of schooling that is not our own whether it is public, private, Catholic or homeschooling.<br />
I try to keep that in mind when I hear comments from individuals with negative views of schooling choices.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Elaine and PM:  

Thank you for posting your thoughts.  I agree!  For me, home was my source of strength in a confusing outside world.  As much as I loved going to school (and I did, I was a social butterfly), there was nothing better than knowing that my parents and my siblings were there for me when I returned home each afternoon.

So peer pressure can be bad, we all know.  But it can be good as well.  I put the peddle to the metal in AP History and English because I wanted to prove to my teachers that I wasn&#039;t just another dumb blond.  My hard work paid off, I passed my AP exams with the highest marks and I was able to get full college credit for those courses.   I learned those years that no matter what color your skin was, or how great of an athlete you were, or how much money your family had, if you worked hard and kept at it, chances are that you would suceed.

Which brings me to another point:  good teachers.  I had a teacher who changed my life when I was fourteen.  She taught Art History and applied arts.  I knew then and there that I was going to study in New York (just like her) and work in a gallery (just like her), that there was more to life than the sleepy bedroom community that I was born and raised in.  My French teacher inspired me to study abroad (which I did later).   I ended up going to school in Manhattan and have a degree in art history.  I worked in a gallery on Madison Ave.  

There&#039;s so much negative talk about school on this board.  Honestly, I never considered my public high school education to be lacking, or the peer pressure to be so overwhelmingly horrible.  Yes, teenagers can be stupid and mean,  but so be it.  Old people can be selfish and crotchety.  Should we write them off because they are in a bad stage of their lives?  Should we not hang out with our grandparents and parents because they are a little too &quot;set in their ways&quot;?  I had my feelings hurt in high school by other girls, but you know what?  I got over it.  I soldiered on.  A little bruised, but wiser in the end.  What mattered most to me, and will always, was my family.  That was permanent.  High school was simply stepping stone to college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Elaine and PM:  </p>
<p>Thank you for posting your thoughts.  I agree!  For me, home was my source of strength in a confusing outside world.  As much as I loved going to school (and I did, I was a social butterfly), there was nothing better than knowing that my parents and my siblings were there for me when I returned home each afternoon.</p>
<p>So peer pressure can be bad, we all know.  But it can be good as well.  I put the peddle to the metal in AP History and English because I wanted to prove to my teachers that I wasn&#8217;t just another dumb blond.  My hard work paid off, I passed my AP exams with the highest marks and I was able to get full college credit for those courses.   I learned those years that no matter what color your skin was, or how great of an athlete you were, or how much money your family had, if you worked hard and kept at it, chances are that you would suceed.</p>
<p>Which brings me to another point:  good teachers.  I had a teacher who changed my life when I was fourteen.  She taught Art History and applied arts.  I knew then and there that I was going to study in New York (just like her) and work in a gallery (just like her), that there was more to life than the sleepy bedroom community that I was born and raised in.  My French teacher inspired me to study abroad (which I did later).   I ended up going to school in Manhattan and have a degree in art history.  I worked in a gallery on Madison Ave.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s so much negative talk about school on this board.  Honestly, I never considered my public high school education to be lacking, or the peer pressure to be so overwhelmingly horrible.  Yes, teenagers can be stupid and mean,  but so be it.  Old people can be selfish and crotchety.  Should we write them off because they are in a bad stage of their lives?  Should we not hang out with our grandparents and parents because they are a little too &#8220;set in their ways&#8221;?  I had my feelings hurt in high school by other girls, but you know what?  I got over it.  I soldiered on.  A little bruised, but wiser in the end.  What mattered most to me, and will always, was my family.  That was permanent.  High school was simply stepping stone to college.</p>
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		<title>By: PM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elaine, I just wanted to say I think your post was great and made alot of good points.

Someone mentioned how if you did a study comparing homeschoolers and public schoolers, the public scholers would be the ones with the pregnancy, abortion, drug use etc.
Well, why not do a study comparing apples to apples, that is students from homes that carry the values we uphold, our faith, morals, family time etc.  I&#039;m sure you would find the results would show that public school kids from faithfilled families do just as well as HS kids from faithfilled families.

Just as HS families tire of people telling them that their kids are not getting socialization I tire of hearing the HS&#039;ers stereotype all public school kids.  

I have great admiration for homeschoolers.  I sometimes wish I could give my kids the education they get at a public school at home.  I really can&#039;t match it but I do give credit to families that can.

As for college, I left a small Catholic college my freshman year and found my faith at one of the most liberal universities in the country.  God works in many ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine, I just wanted to say I think your post was great and made alot of good points.</p>
<p>Someone mentioned how if you did a study comparing homeschoolers and public schoolers, the public scholers would be the ones with the pregnancy, abortion, drug use etc.<br />
Well, why not do a study comparing apples to apples, that is students from homes that carry the values we uphold, our faith, morals, family time etc.  I&#8217;m sure you would find the results would show that public school kids from faithfilled families do just as well as HS kids from faithfilled families.</p>
<p>Just as HS families tire of people telling them that their kids are not getting socialization I tire of hearing the HS&#8217;ers stereotype all public school kids.  </p>
<p>I have great admiration for homeschoolers.  I sometimes wish I could give my kids the education they get at a public school at home.  I really can&#8217;t match it but I do give credit to families that can.</p>
<p>As for college, I left a small Catholic college my freshman year and found my faith at one of the most liberal universities in the country.  God works in many ways.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonAgain</title>
		<link>http://daniellebean.com/2008/04/22/coffee-talk-tuesday-4/comment-page-4/#comment-10659</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonAgain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regular Mom, I think you just hit on something that brings the two topics together...HSing and Catholic colleges.  

Think about it: isn&#039;t it strange that - usually - the HSing moms go for the Catholic colleges and say that you need the Catholic college for the great liberal arts/Catholic ed?  Well, if HSing works to give the foundations of a great Catholic education, wouldn&#039;t you think that it&#039;s possible  to continue to &quot;HS&quot; ourselves in the liberal arts and catholic faith in our later teen/adult years? 

Funny this conversation is happening now b/c last night on EWTN there was an ad for Christendom, promoting the idea that the real reason for higher education is not vocational, but to be really educated, liberal arts, etc.  I can agree with that idea, but there is no reason that you can&#039;t do the great books while you are getting that more practical degree in something that&#039;s going to pay you a lot more.  (And my problem with the orthodox Catholic colleges is that some of them are notoriously lax in their academic standards in fields other than theology, etc.)

Also, there are exceptions, e.g. if your passion is philosophy then by all means go to one of the Catholic schools and prepare to get your PhD in phil. and then you can be a professor.  OR if you really think Catholic liberal arts and debt is the way to go, with no real idea about practical employability, please do feel free to choose that, but what is never mentioned is you are also choosing a life of financial worry.  

Some people handle that better than I do, I guess.  But when I see other threads that worry about job security, medical benefits, cars that die, washing machines that must be replaced, I get all itchy.  I remember how panicky that life was.  Now?  All those stresses are gone.  An appliance dies?  I get a new one.  And probably upgrade.  Another kid needs braces?  No sweat.  Credit card debt?  Unheard of; paid in full each month.  Also, our financial situation helps out other families that didn&#039;t make the same choices we did and can&#039;t manage to pay their bills.  We give a lot to our church, to religious orders, worthy charities, etc.  So don&#039;t think it&#039;s all about me going to get my teeth bleached or go to a spa for the weekend.  Which I also do; my husband loves it when I take care of myself.  But hey, we earned it.

This is not for braggings&#039; sake I do this; I am anonymous after all.  I do this to point out how very different my life is now from how it used to be. We have almost no stress in our lives regarding the material things, but that sense of &quot;no anxiety&quot; definitely spills over into other areas of our lives, no question.  And I can only point to the right degree/career path that did that.  More power to you if those things are easy for you to handle.  I couldn&#039;t, so I didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regular Mom, I think you just hit on something that brings the two topics together&#8230;HSing and Catholic colleges.  </p>
<p>Think about it: isn&#8217;t it strange that &#8211; usually &#8211; the HSing moms go for the Catholic colleges and say that you need the Catholic college for the great liberal arts/Catholic ed?  Well, if HSing works to give the foundations of a great Catholic education, wouldn&#8217;t you think that it&#8217;s possible  to continue to &#8220;HS&#8221; ourselves in the liberal arts and catholic faith in our later teen/adult years? </p>
<p>Funny this conversation is happening now b/c last night on EWTN there was an ad for Christendom, promoting the idea that the real reason for higher education is not vocational, but to be really educated, liberal arts, etc.  I can agree with that idea, but there is no reason that you can&#8217;t do the great books while you are getting that more practical degree in something that&#8217;s going to pay you a lot more.  (And my problem with the orthodox Catholic colleges is that some of them are notoriously lax in their academic standards in fields other than theology, etc.)</p>
<p>Also, there are exceptions, e.g. if your passion is philosophy then by all means go to one of the Catholic schools and prepare to get your PhD in phil. and then you can be a professor.  OR if you really think Catholic liberal arts and debt is the way to go, with no real idea about practical employability, please do feel free to choose that, but what is never mentioned is you are also choosing a life of financial worry.  </p>
<p>Some people handle that better than I do, I guess.  But when I see other threads that worry about job security, medical benefits, cars that die, washing machines that must be replaced, I get all itchy.  I remember how panicky that life was.  Now?  All those stresses are gone.  An appliance dies?  I get a new one.  And probably upgrade.  Another kid needs braces?  No sweat.  Credit card debt?  Unheard of; paid in full each month.  Also, our financial situation helps out other families that didn&#8217;t make the same choices we did and can&#8217;t manage to pay their bills.  We give a lot to our church, to religious orders, worthy charities, etc.  So don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s all about me going to get my teeth bleached or go to a spa for the weekend.  Which I also do; my husband loves it when I take care of myself.  But hey, we earned it.</p>
<p>This is not for braggings&#8217; sake I do this; I am anonymous after all.  I do this to point out how very different my life is now from how it used to be. We have almost no stress in our lives regarding the material things, but that sense of &#8220;no anxiety&#8221; definitely spills over into other areas of our lives, no question.  And I can only point to the right degree/career path that did that.  More power to you if those things are easy for you to handle.  I couldn&#8217;t, so I didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyHatton</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been enjoying the posts and am now at home after spending the week with my recently widowed mother-in-law. This has been a stressful time for our family. I so appreciate Danielle providing a place for us to chat and relax a bit.
Debt: I had $30,000 in law school debt when I married my husband. He had no debt at all because his parents were able to pay for his education. We married in 1990 and I was working as a public defender for peanuts ($20,000 in NYC--in 1989) but a few months afterwards I was offered another job in the court system, with a significantly higher salary. Although I did not enjoy the work as much as I did Legal Aid, I felt that since we were recently married and had bought a house I should take the higher-paying job.  After a few years we became concerned that &quot;nothing was happening&quot; in the baby department :) and I feared I would never become a mother. But God has a plan. I had my first son in 1994 and by that time, we had paid off the school loan and refinanced our mortgage twice. I was able to go on an extended &quot;maternity leave&quot; which is now going into its fourteenth year. I felt so blessed to be able to have that time with my son. When people ask if I am still practicing law I say yes, I am a lawyer with one client. I have done pro bono work and even a little &quot;consulting&quot; for a non-profit agency but my main job has been mothering.  I still keep up with my attorney registration and continuing ed. It is my insurance policy. I don&#039;t know if I will ever go back to fulltime legal work since my little one is just five, but I am so thankful to have a profession I can fall back on. I think everyone should have some trade, skill or profession they can use to take care of themselves and their families if tragedy should strike or even economic circumstances change. Sorry to go on so long but just wanted to add my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been enjoying the posts and am now at home after spending the week with my recently widowed mother-in-law. This has been a stressful time for our family. I so appreciate Danielle providing a place for us to chat and relax a bit.<br />
Debt: I had $30,000 in law school debt when I married my husband. He had no debt at all because his parents were able to pay for his education. We married in 1990 and I was working as a public defender for peanuts ($20,000 in NYC&#8211;in 1989) but a few months afterwards I was offered another job in the court system, with a significantly higher salary. Although I did not enjoy the work as much as I did Legal Aid, I felt that since we were recently married and had bought a house I should take the higher-paying job.  After a few years we became concerned that &#8220;nothing was happening&#8221; in the baby department <img src='http://daniellebean.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  and I feared I would never become a mother. But God has a plan. I had my first son in 1994 and by that time, we had paid off the school loan and refinanced our mortgage twice. I was able to go on an extended &#8220;maternity leave&#8221; which is now going into its fourteenth year. I felt so blessed to be able to have that time with my son. When people ask if I am still practicing law I say yes, I am a lawyer with one client. I have done pro bono work and even a little &#8220;consulting&#8221; for a non-profit agency but my main job has been mothering.  I still keep up with my attorney registration and continuing ed. It is my insurance policy. I don&#8217;t know if I will ever go back to fulltime legal work since my little one is just five, but I am so thankful to have a profession I can fall back on. I think everyone should have some trade, skill or profession they can use to take care of themselves and their families if tragedy should strike or even economic circumstances change. Sorry to go on so long but just wanted to add my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If somebody would have sat me down and said, “Look, you’re not wealthy and neither is your family. Study literature if you like, perhaps as a minor, but major in business or communications so there’s some chance somebody will hire you to be something more than a glorified secretary when you get out of here,” that person would have done me an invaluable service.


--This happened to the kids ( and son in law) of a good friend of mine.  There is no disputing they enjoyed their time at the Catholic College, but unfortunately, once they were done, they had to go on to a regular university and almost completely *start over* to get into a field that would produce a sustainable income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If somebody would have sat me down and said, “Look, you’re not wealthy and neither is your family. Study literature if you like, perhaps as a minor, but major in business or communications so there’s some chance somebody will hire you to be something more than a glorified secretary when you get out of here,” that person would have done me an invaluable service.</p>
<p>&#8211;This happened to the kids ( and son in law) of a good friend of mine.  There is no disputing they enjoyed their time at the Catholic College, but unfortunately, once they were done, they had to go on to a regular university and almost completely *start over* to get into a field that would produce a sustainable income.</p>
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		<title>By: Regular Mom</title>
		<link>http://daniellebean.com/2008/04/22/coffee-talk-tuesday-4/comment-page-4/#comment-10656</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure where some of you have read above that a Catholic woman should remain uneducated and avoid accruing college debt since she might later become a SAHM.  It seems to me that everyone who has posted agrees that advanced schooling is important.  WHat we don&#039;t agree on is to whether anyone (read men &amp; women) should acquire great debt in pursuit of that education. 

 And, while I&#039;m at it ;-), I&#039;d like to mention that it is possible to understand and appreciate/understand literature, philosophy, science and the arts without attending a small private Catholic college at $25k a year. Some of this attitude comes off to me as a form of &quot;elitist Catholic royalty&quot;. To be in the club you have to have had over 4 kids, home schooled and send your kids to the &quot;right&quot; Catholic colleges. Give me a break!

Elaine: Loved your post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure where some of you have read above that a Catholic woman should remain uneducated and avoid accruing college debt since she might later become a SAHM.  It seems to me that everyone who has posted agrees that advanced schooling is important.  WHat we don&#8217;t agree on is to whether anyone (read men &amp; women) should acquire great debt in pursuit of that education. </p>
<p> And, while I&#8217;m at it <img src='http://daniellebean.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , I&#8217;d like to mention that it is possible to understand and appreciate/understand literature, philosophy, science and the arts without attending a small private Catholic college at $25k a year. Some of this attitude comes off to me as a form of &#8220;elitist Catholic royalty&#8221;. To be in the club you have to have had over 4 kids, home schooled and send your kids to the &#8220;right&#8221; Catholic colleges. Give me a break!</p>
<p>Elaine: Loved your post!</p>
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