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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://daniellebean.com/2008/03/11/your-turn-open-line-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-9665</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I&#039;m considering doing this on a regular basis as some of you requested. For now, though, I&#039;m closing comments as I won&#039;t be around to moderate them. Have a great weekend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I&#8217;m considering doing this on a regular basis as some of you requested. For now, though, I&#8217;m closing comments as I won&#8217;t be around to moderate them. Have a great weekend!</p>
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		<title>By: Marcie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Anony-not much advice but you are NOT ALONE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Anony-not much advice but you are NOT ALONE!</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://daniellebean.com/2008/03/11/your-turn-open-line-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-9660</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so much here.

We began homeschooling as our local Catholic school increased tuition; we were moving away, anyway.  Now we&#039;re back and still homeschooling - $6500 is too much, high schook is $10K - and the elementary school is losing money because it has so many empty classroom seats.  People can&#039;t afford this tuition.  For this one school, at least, salary parity has backfired.  The pastor just announced a freeze in teachers&#039; salaries - now they can&#039;t achieve either the parity goal or the full enrollment goal.  Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so much here.</p>
<p>We began homeschooling as our local Catholic school increased tuition; we were moving away, anyway.  Now we&#8217;re back and still homeschooling &#8211; $6500 is too much, high schook is $10K &#8211; and the elementary school is losing money because it has so many empty classroom seats.  People can&#8217;t afford this tuition.  For this one school, at least, salary parity has backfired.  The pastor just announced a freeze in teachers&#8217; salaries &#8211; now they can&#8217;t achieve either the parity goal or the full enrollment goal.  Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: meme</title>
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		<dc:creator>meme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the lady who asked about shopping and bathrooms.....I know what you are talking about-totally!  it is quite the big deal over here so here is what I do- The rule is that we DO not use the public bathrooms!  I make sure that they ALL go the bathroom within 5 minutes of leaving the house; if they really have to go-iin dire emergencies- I usually go to the van-buckle everyone in their car seats and find the nearest tree or next to the van where no one can see. I use a blanket and drape it over the child....or if there is a potty I can take with me-then I do so or a bucket-whatever works.
So, that&#039;s it-no way do we feel comfortable leaving our son- 7yrs. old- in the men&#039;s bathroom by himself-noway!  or leave the other 4 in a cart-noway.  hope this helps out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the lady who asked about shopping and bathrooms&#8230;..I know what you are talking about-totally!  it is quite the big deal over here so here is what I do- The rule is that we DO not use the public bathrooms!  I make sure that they ALL go the bathroom within 5 minutes of leaving the house; if they really have to go-iin dire emergencies- I usually go to the van-buckle everyone in their car seats and find the nearest tree or next to the van where no one can see. I use a blanket and drape it over the child&#8230;.or if there is a potty I can take with me-then I do so or a bucket-whatever works.<br />
So, that&#8217;s it-no way do we feel comfortable leaving our son- 7yrs. old- in the men&#8217;s bathroom by himself-noway!  or leave the other 4 in a cart-noway.  hope this helps out.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Sarah G,

I, too, have an 8 yo son.  Despite what others may or may not deem appropriate, he still comes in the restroom with me more often than not.  In our small hometown, I am very comfortable letting him go in alone while I or one of his older sisters waits outside.  However, when we travel, if my husband is not with us, I insist he come in with me after I check inside to make sure there are no ladies changing or in some other form of undress.  He feels he is too old for this, but truck stop and &quot;big city&quot; restrooms are not the places I want him to assert his independence.  The risk far outweighs the benefit in my mind.  So far, I have never been chastised by a bathroom patron for bringing him in, in fact, most of the women nod in understanding at my choice, even while my son complains sadly that he&#039;s being treated like a baby.  I am interested in knowing at what age other mom&#039;s allow their sons to use public restrooms alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Sarah G,</p>
<p>I, too, have an 8 yo son.  Despite what others may or may not deem appropriate, he still comes in the restroom with me more often than not.  In our small hometown, I am very comfortable letting him go in alone while I or one of his older sisters waits outside.  However, when we travel, if my husband is not with us, I insist he come in with me after I check inside to make sure there are no ladies changing or in some other form of undress.  He feels he is too old for this, but truck stop and &#8220;big city&#8221; restrooms are not the places I want him to assert his independence.  The risk far outweighs the benefit in my mind.  So far, I have never been chastised by a bathroom patron for bringing him in, in fact, most of the women nod in understanding at my choice, even while my son complains sadly that he&#8217;s being treated like a baby.  I am interested in knowing at what age other mom&#8217;s allow their sons to use public restrooms alone.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnOn,2</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnOn,2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add to the conversation about small(er) families and contributions - and listening to the experience of the poster who is a Catholic school teacher in NY - I can tell you that I now have quite a few years experience regarding both my contributions to large families and Catholic schooling.  

My children go to an excellent private Catholic school that is both academically, theologically and philosophically rock-solid.   Because of it being such a great school, it tends to draw from some large, Catholic homeschooled families.  But because the expenses are through the roof (insurance, teacher salary, rent, utilities, etc) it costs well over $10,000 per child per year to make the school work.  And it&#039;s the smaller families that aren&#039;t stretched to the financial limits that are subsidizing those large, working-class poor or lower-middle-class Catholic families.  Yes, I have some financial flexibility because I don&#039;t have 4 or 6 or more children, and so I pay more.  They pay less, a lot less.  

It&#039;s a huge contribution - their kids would never get such an excellent educational experience that is available to them at our school - and it&#039;s the smaller families that make that happen.  And I&#039;ve never seen anyone even mention this in any large family/small family discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to the conversation about small(er) families and contributions &#8211; and listening to the experience of the poster who is a Catholic school teacher in NY &#8211; I can tell you that I now have quite a few years experience regarding both my contributions to large families and Catholic schooling.  </p>
<p>My children go to an excellent private Catholic school that is both academically, theologically and philosophically rock-solid.   Because of it being such a great school, it tends to draw from some large, Catholic homeschooled families.  But because the expenses are through the roof (insurance, teacher salary, rent, utilities, etc) it costs well over $10,000 per child per year to make the school work.  And it&#8217;s the smaller families that aren&#8217;t stretched to the financial limits that are subsidizing those large, working-class poor or lower-middle-class Catholic families.  Yes, I have some financial flexibility because I don&#8217;t have 4 or 6 or more children, and so I pay more.  They pay less, a lot less.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a huge contribution &#8211; their kids would never get such an excellent educational experience that is available to them at our school &#8211; and it&#8217;s the smaller families that make that happen.  And I&#8217;ve never seen anyone even mention this in any large family/small family discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to anonoymous March 11  that is married 16 years.  

My heart goes out to you.  The most powerful thing I can suggest is pour your heart out to God for his help.   I will pray for you!   But, don&#039;t lose hope.  The most difficult situations do change with God&#039;s help.  

In the meanwhile, can you contact your parish for assistance.  Our parish has older couples to help in these situations and they have Retrouville - a retreat from troubled marriages that I have heard is very good.  In the past, my husband and I have spoken w/ these couples and it is very good to have their support and prayers.

God bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to anonoymous March 11  that is married 16 years.  </p>
<p>My heart goes out to you.  The most powerful thing I can suggest is pour your heart out to God for his help.   I will pray for you!   But, don&#8217;t lose hope.  The most difficult situations do change with God&#8217;s help.  </p>
<p>In the meanwhile, can you contact your parish for assistance.  Our parish has older couples to help in these situations and they have Retrouville &#8211; a retreat from troubled marriages that I have heard is very good.  In the past, my husband and I have spoken w/ these couples and it is very good to have their support and prayers.</p>
<p>God bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah G - 
A security guard or store manager should be willing to accompany your son into the restroom.  Had to do that w/my son once in an &quot;emergency&quot; situation.  He was your son&#039;s age.  It was the only option.  Peace.   ~~~mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah G &#8211;<br />
A security guard or store manager should be willing to accompany your son into the restroom.  Had to do that w/my son once in an &#8220;emergency&#8221; situation.  He was your son&#8217;s age.  It was the only option.  Peace.   ~~~mary</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to wish a happy 13th birthday to Kateri.  It is my youngest son&#039;s 2nd birthday, too.  13 in no longer an unlucky # around here since our anniversary also lands on the 13th of July.  :o)  

This question and answer posting is awesome!  I&#039;ve gotten some great information and been able to give out some of my own advice, too.  Thank you, Danielle, for giving us this opportunity to share with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to wish a happy 13th birthday to Kateri.  It is my youngest son&#8217;s 2nd birthday, too.  13 in no longer an unlucky # around here since our anniversary also lands on the 13th of July.  <img src='http://daniellebean.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )  </p>
<p>This question and answer posting is awesome!  I&#8217;ve gotten some great information and been able to give out some of my own advice, too.  Thank you, Danielle, for giving us this opportunity to share with you!</p>
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		<title>By: Kim F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already posted one question but had a few more and figured I&#039;d ask them while I can.

1. What do you do about the kids sharing rooms? I&#039;m assuming that they do and that your house doesn&#039;t have nine bedrooms. Once our baby is out of our room some of the kids are going to have to share and we&#039;re not sure the best arrangement. The oldest two are a boy and a girl and the best sleepers. Is it ok for them to share? And for how long?

2. Do you feel it&#039;s necessary to protect your children from worldly influences? Since you homeschool, they&#039;re not getting the same exposure to popular culture as their peers but what do you do if you need to go to the mall, or even the grocery store (with inappropriate magazine covers on display at child height)? I can&#039;t keep my kids away from all this forever but at the same time I don&#039;t want them thinking these things are the &quot;norm&quot; when they are at such an impressionable age. Sometimes I feel like I was born in the wrong generation! The clothing, music, tv shows out there are so horrible. A lot of people would say that you can&#039;t protect them from all of that but that&#039;s our job as parents...at least until they are old enough to discern between right and wrong. So what do we do? How can we be in the world but not of the world?

To all those who&#039;ve posted with housekeeping issues...
What I&#039;ve found to help, after about 5 years of being home, is to not expect the house to be entirely clean at once. I used to do whole house cleaning on one day but that&#039;s not realistic with kids. Now I spread it out throughout the week and most of what I do is just maintenance. I keep cleaning supplies where they are used (up high in bathroom closets upstairs). And I use products that I never would have used before...Swiffers, Clorox wipes, Clorox toilet wand, etc. That way, if I notice the bathroom counter needs to be wiped down I just pull a wipe out and do it. No excuses and no waiting until cleaning day. I find this way I haven&#039;t really had to do a major cleaning too often. Oh, and upon the recommendation from friends we bought a Roomba. I LOVE IT! It&#039;s not as good as a regular vacuum cleaner but I can vacuum the upstairs bedrooms while I&#039;m downstairs playing with the kids (or catching up with Danielle&#039;s blog). Just like Danielle said about the brownies...it may not be the way we would like to do it, but it&#039;s better than not at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already posted one question but had a few more and figured I&#8217;d ask them while I can.</p>
<p>1. What do you do about the kids sharing rooms? I&#8217;m assuming that they do and that your house doesn&#8217;t have nine bedrooms. Once our baby is out of our room some of the kids are going to have to share and we&#8217;re not sure the best arrangement. The oldest two are a boy and a girl and the best sleepers. Is it ok for them to share? And for how long?</p>
<p>2. Do you feel it&#8217;s necessary to protect your children from worldly influences? Since you homeschool, they&#8217;re not getting the same exposure to popular culture as their peers but what do you do if you need to go to the mall, or even the grocery store (with inappropriate magazine covers on display at child height)? I can&#8217;t keep my kids away from all this forever but at the same time I don&#8217;t want them thinking these things are the &#8220;norm&#8221; when they are at such an impressionable age. Sometimes I feel like I was born in the wrong generation! The clothing, music, tv shows out there are so horrible. A lot of people would say that you can&#8217;t protect them from all of that but that&#8217;s our job as parents&#8230;at least until they are old enough to discern between right and wrong. So what do we do? How can we be in the world but not of the world?</p>
<p>To all those who&#8217;ve posted with housekeeping issues&#8230;<br />
What I&#8217;ve found to help, after about 5 years of being home, is to not expect the house to be entirely clean at once. I used to do whole house cleaning on one day but that&#8217;s not realistic with kids. Now I spread it out throughout the week and most of what I do is just maintenance. I keep cleaning supplies where they are used (up high in bathroom closets upstairs). And I use products that I never would have used before&#8230;Swiffers, Clorox wipes, Clorox toilet wand, etc. That way, if I notice the bathroom counter needs to be wiped down I just pull a wipe out and do it. No excuses and no waiting until cleaning day. I find this way I haven&#8217;t really had to do a major cleaning too often. Oh, and upon the recommendation from friends we bought a Roomba. I LOVE IT! It&#8217;s not as good as a regular vacuum cleaner but I can vacuum the upstairs bedrooms while I&#8217;m downstairs playing with the kids (or catching up with Danielle&#8217;s blog). Just like Danielle said about the brownies&#8230;it may not be the way we would like to do it, but it&#8217;s better than not at all.</p>
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